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Royalty
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  18:43:39  Show Profile
Hiya everyone! Royalty here once again!

As some of you may know, i am getting a royal python next month.

And now, this is were i'd like you to come in - what do you think - honestly - do you think a male or female is better tempered - or not much difference.

I've been told by 2 pet shops that females are placid all-year-round whereas males can get snappy during the breeding season.

And i've been told by someone who studies herpetology that there isn't any difference.

And i've been told by someone who breeds royals, that males are more placid then the females?!

So - i thought i'd ask on here - some help please!?

Josh - AKA:
ROYALTY - The Herp King

Edited by - Royalty on 11/02/2009 18:44:15

dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  19:10:41  Show Profile
i would get a female first...

only cos that will give you a head start on breeding. takes 3 years ish to get a female up to 1500g's where as a male has been known to breed alot smaller (ubder 500g).

so by the time you realise you want another royal and start breeding you female is already on her way...



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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  19:22:18  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
As above, go for a female



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Royalty
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  19:40:06  Show Profile
But is there any differnce in temperment?

All i know is that females are ussaly around a foot longer then males and more expensive to obtain.

Josh - AKA:
ROYALTY - The Herp King
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  20:15:53  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
For a normal Royal hatchling the price is unlikely to be very different if at all.

I have not noticed a difference in temperament.



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Dazzetski
Yearling

United Kingdom
461 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  22:57:43  Show Profile  Visit Dazzetski's Homepage  Click to see Dazzetski's MSN Messenger address
My baby's a girl & she is soooo laid back, I'm inexperienced but gotta go with the girlies as they grow bigger & I'm head over heels in love with sssssofia! hope this helps


0.2.0 Cats (Spud & Phoebe) RIP Stevie fat man
1.1.0 Royals (Syd & Sofia)
2.2.3 Corns (Hogan, Shaggy, Sparkle, Tango, Fred, Haribo & Go Faster)
0.0.1 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Escobar)
1.1.0 Variable King Snakes (Lancelot & Guinaverre)
0.0.20 Fish
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  16:36:05  Show Profile
If your not going to breed, and you have the choice or both sexs, go with the one thats better looking

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Royalty
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  19:18:10  Show Profile
Thanks.
A think a female will be my first choice but of course, a male wouldn't be bad either.

PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT:

I have asked around in all of these pet shops in Cornwall:
Gills & Geckos
Scales & Tails
Xcaliber Reptiles
And i'm ringing a couple in Devon tomorrow.
I have also tried online.

And at the moment, i'm having trouble finding a hatchling.

All of the ones i've mentioned above can get me a Juvenile - but it seems impossible to get hold of a hatchling at the moment.

Is it really to early and should i wait or is it possible to get one - and if so - HOW!?!

Josh - AKA:
ROYALTY - The Herp King

Edited by - Royalty on 12/02/2009 19:20:48
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Royalty
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  19:29:51  Show Profile
Also, would you advise orchid bark as a substare?

Some pet shops say it's toxic to snakes and others say it's perfect.

If it is - could you please give me another idea - i'd like a substare that looks natural.

Josh - AKA:
ROYALTY - The Herp King
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  19:33:47  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
You won't find hatchlings at the moment, wrong time of year.

Orchid bark is fine.



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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  19:36:45  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Royalty

Also, would you advise orchid bark as a substare?

Some pet shops say it's toxic to snakes...

were they trying to sell you a more expensive alternative?
it's absolutely fine to use and i have my royal on it. the only problem i've had is that it's too damp when you first put it in, baking it in the oven fixes that though

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  19:43:53  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Royalty

Also, would you advise orchid bark as a substare?

Some pet shops say it's toxic to snakes and others say it's perfect.

If it is - could you please give me another idea - i'd like a substare that looks natural.



It's fine. Just keep an eye on the humidity. I use it in my terrariums for my bugs. Some of them have 80% humidity which holds quite easily with orchid bark. Keep checking your hygrometer and you'll be fine

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Dazzetski
Yearling

United Kingdom
461 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2009 :  20:53:06  Show Profile  Visit Dazzetski's Homepage  Click to see Dazzetski's MSN Messenger address
orchid bark is fine, sssssofia is on it & I wouldn't use it if for 1 minute I thought it may harm her. Any particular reason you want a hatchling, sssssofia's 2 in May & she's perfect!!! you may find (feel free to disagree guys! ) your baby will be a more established feeder if he/she is 12+ months old.


0.2.0 Cats (Spud & Phoebe) RIP Stevie fat man
1.1.0 Royals (Syd & Sofia)
2.2.3 Corns (Hogan, Shaggy, Sparkle, Tango, Fred, Haribo & Go Faster)
0.0.1 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Escobar)
1.1.0 Variable King Snakes (Lancelot & Guinaverre)
0.0.20 Fish

Edited by - Dazzetski on 12/02/2009 20:56:25
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2009 :  17:31:32  Show Profile
only hatchlings ive seen are CF...at least i think they were...




Edited by - dazb on 13/02/2009 17:32:03
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Colin S
Yearling

United Kingdom
148 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2009 :  20:00:16  Show Profile
I too have a female and she is so placid. OK she is still young, but i don`t think her temperment will change.
I would say that as long as your snake is happy, there should be no problem with either sex.
I also use a mixture of Aspen and Orchid bark for the substrate. This way I think you get a happy medium where humidity is concerned.

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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2009 :  20:22:29  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

only hatchlings ive seen are CF...at least i think they were...


Dave at T-Pets (used to Snakes n Adders, Leeds) told me the vast majority or normal royal hatchlings will be CF.

normal looking CBs are likely to be a by-product of creating other morphs are likely to have hets and therefore be more expensive/valuble to breeders. CF are so cheap that petshops snap them up and make a nice profit on them

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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