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Shotputtman
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
 Posted - 18/01/2014 : 21:44:08
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I felt sorry for my 3 pythons in the 12l rubs so moved the 2 smaller ones to a 2ft viv each and the 500g pastel is in the 3ft. They have all fed a few times since and 2 have shed but they just never come out of there hides (some times hot side some times cold). When they were in rubs they seemed to explore lots more.
Should I look at putting them back in the smaller rubs as I want then to be happy instead of living in what looks like an empty tank??
Not sure if the decorated tanks are for our benefit to look at or the snakes...
Also in the process of designing 50l rub stacks at the mo.
Any advice will be gratefully received
Thanks
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Pythonwizard
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
650 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2014 : 21:46:44
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| Lovely Set up btw. To answer your question as long as they are feeding fine then they should be fine it will just take them time to settle in properly |
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
3326 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2014 : 22:08:46
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personally i think planted viv's are for the benefit of the snake's as they then have the oppertunity to move about more, climb and various different place they can hide/explore
with them spending most of them time in a hide to me say's they are content an feel they have somewhere safe to rest/hide opposed to always being on the move looking for a hiding place and as you say their moving side's then their thermoregulating as they should do
once ive freed up a viv the hatchling royal ive got it going to be put into an fully planted 2ft or 3ft viv with load's of hide's/cover/plant's ect |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 20/01/2014 : 18:58:23
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I'm pro vivarium. I love making a show piece for each animal. But I'm pro rub as well.
Snakes don't care either way so long as their needs are met. |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2014 : 00:18:04
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A happy snake is an inactive snake... of course, a scared snake is also an inactive snake. So, you kinda have to know the difference.
A very active snake - always roaming around the container/viv is a stressed snake (always looking for an escape route)... of course, an active snake is also a curious snake. You also get to figure out the difference.
Every snake is different but observing the snake closely will usually give you a good understanding of what your snake's behavior is telling you.
Whether a snake is in a rub or a viv doesn't matter to the snake. But, it matters greatly whether you can provide the perfect space/temperature/humidity/security/sanitization in a rub or a viv. It is much much easier to maintain those conditions in a rub, much more difficult in a viv. So, rub or viv is completely up to you.
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
3326 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2014 : 18:49:01
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quote:
Originally posted by anatess
Whether a snake is in a rub or a viv doesn't matter to the snake. But, it matters greatly whether you can provide the perfect space/temperature/humidity/security/sanitization in a rub or a viv. It is much much easier to maintain those conditions in a rub, much more difficult in a viv. So, rub or viv is completely up to you.
sorry but i completely disagree with that it is not more difficult to get the right temperature, humidity ect in viv if anything it is easier to get the correct temp's when using an overhead heat source in a viv like a ceramic or IR bulb plus it gives a much better ambient temperature.
as for cleaning it's no different keeping it clean in a viv than it is a rub long as the edge's are sealed it's just a case of wiping over/scrubbing with disinfectant as you would in a rub |
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emileelouisexo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
22 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2014 : 19:07:22
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| I used to keep my pastel in a rub but he's been in 3ft viv for approx 2 years now. It's packed out with hides branches and lots greenery. I barely see him as he's always hidden under a hide. When he does venture out he seems pretty content and has never looked stressed out. When he was in his rub he was too active and was always poking around the top of the rub for somewhere to sneak out of. I think it depends on the snake really. Kaiser is happy in his vivarium and I personally have found it a lot easier to get the right temperature and humidity for him. Your set up is lovely and you've got plenty of hiding places for them :) |
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PythonManDan
Yearling
United Kingdom
150 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2014 : 20:25:13
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Nice setup! I use both RUBs and Vivs. I think it's easier to get the right temps and temperature gradient in a viv as opposed to a RUB, but I've found it awkward to maintain decent humidity levels in vivs dur to the ceramic heaters 'drying' the air out. RUBs hold a better humidity level in my opinion. As said though, there both as easy to clean out, a RUB praps being easier as you can take it out on the back yard and blast it with the hose now and again.
I'd say its all dependent on snake size, I prefer smaller snakes in RUBs and adults in a nice well packed viv. |
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Foremand
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
968 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2014 : 04:40:27
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| Don't firget that snakes are also a night time pet so you may find he hides in the day time and roams around at night. Or have you seen him at night time? Nice set up. My royal tends to hide away in the fake plant or in his hide. So wouldn't worry about it. As long as feeding is going well then it's a happy snake. |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2014 : 23:46:40
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| Ive got snakes in RUBs and vivs all are active at times but also hide away alot, all are feeding and arent aggressive in any way apart from an occasionally hissy female royal and the BCI when he's hungry! I like vivs for the way they look, they look awesome in the living room where as RUBs temp to just look like a box over in the corner so its your personally preference really.. |
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Donavoncashmore
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 22:11:16
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My girl is happy she will hide away for 1-2 days then real active for days never missed a feed even when in shed . Viv size 3ft 2ft 2ft with climbing log
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 16:32:14
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It's not hard to see a snake 100% of the time in a rub is it :P Remember its a royal,so its good you don't see it out all day.But i bet its out climbing around all night :) Mine does,climbs around,sits on the logs etc etc.I wouldn't base a move back to a rub,based on you not seeing them in the day.
Nice setups btw :) they look good,with some thought put into them :) |
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Rub or Viv for Happy Snakes ???
