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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 25/05/2009 : 14:37:55
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hi everyone, this is my first post and im new to rp ownership.
my rp came home on tuesday after it had apparently shed and eaten, but im not to know. is apparently around 5 weeks now.
when i got it home i noticed a small white spec on its back and thought nothing of it.
now since, it seems to have got bigger, but maybe it hasnt? but it seems to have got a sore nose that looks very uncomfotable but i cant find any infomation on anything like these. i cant find a local herp vet open in the area so im hoping someone can put my mind at rest.
this is my royal python.
sorry for the poor picture but you can sort of make it out. it seems to be loseing the skin off its nose as its going really dry.
hopefully someone has seen it before.
thanks to anyone that can help in advance.
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/05/2009 : 15:00:17
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not sure on the white spot...the sore nose is probably from rubbing it on the RUB/viv...
cant really offer any solid advice but dont worry some one will be along soon to help you... |
 
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 15:04:55
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thanks for the reply, i did think it may of been something like that as i have a wire mesh part that the light shines through, and it does like to try and escape.
any ideas how to treat it?
the spot does look like it could be a cpl of white scales but on a black area, but they look to have lifted, makes it look like a lump or spot.
thanks again.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/05/2009 : 15:18:16
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i cant really make out the white spot, but it could be from his last shed...
and also the sore nose could be shed that has not come off and him trying to rub it off,
what are you keeping him in that has wire mesh on it? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 15:26:50
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i have a 2.5ft snake tank with sliding glass lids, but i smashed 1 lot of glass when i was getting it set up for it to come home, i was shineing it through the glass and it smashed, so i had to reclean everything and leave 1 bit open with mesh for the light to go on. its got hides, humid hide, water x3, climing log, fake plants accross the floor as it was climing up them and trying to get out. im useing a exo terra infared buld with a dimming habistat on the basking point at 33. cold side 26, warm side 29, 50-60% humidity. maybe he just dont want to be in there,lol.
thanks
neil |
Edited by - bpluv on 25/05/2009 15:27:26 |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 16:21:45
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 16:29:47
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Originally posted by bpluv
Is there any skin showing where that is?
and are you using a thermostat with your heat source for your royals enclosure..? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 16:35:50
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i cant see any skin, but i havnt tried lifting it or anything, dont want to hurt it.
i have a habistat controling my light and i also got 2 rain forest heat mats under the tank that dont have stats. the shop said i needed them, didnt mention a stat for the mats though iv heard its best to.
what temperature should the substrate be at roughly?. i can put my hand on the glass under the substrate and it just feels warm.
i appreiciate the help.
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 16:38:41
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| the light is my main heat source btw, is a exo terra 150w infared bulb in a glo shade. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 17:28:09
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Originally posted by bpluv
i cant see any skin, but i havnt tried lifting it or anything, dont want to hurt it.
i have a habistat controling my light and i also got 2 rain forest heat mats under the tank that dont have stats. the shop said i needed them, didnt mention a stat for the mats though iv heard its best to.
what temperature should the substrate be at roughly?. i can put my hand on the glass under the substrate and it just feels warm.
i appreiciate the help.
neil
is the tank wooden or glass, do you have a photo of your set up?
there is a good care sheet here
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/royal_python_care_sheet.htm
any form of heating being used should be statted and to touch the substrate to test it wont work,
heat mats can reach up to a 140f in minutes if left unstatted...
you should be aiming for a temperature gradient of 26-33°C (80-91°F)
what kind of habistat is controlling the light? is it a dimmer?
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 25/05/2009 : 17:38:28
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quote:
Originally posted by bpluv
i have a 2.5ft snake tank with sliding glass lids, but i smashed 1 lot of glass when i was getting it set up for it to come home, i was shineing it through the glass and it smashed, so i had to reclean everything and leave 1 bit open with mesh for the light to go on. its got hides, humid hide, water x3, climing log, fake plants accross the floor as it was climing up them and trying to get out. im useing a exo terra infared buld with a dimming habistat on the basking point at 33. cold side 26, warm side 29, 50-60% humidity. maybe he just dont want to be in there,lol.
thanks
neil
strikes me that the viv may be too big? |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 17:42:36
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Originally posted by MissCat
strikes me that the viv may be too big?
your right Cat and i bet the pet shop told the op it would be fine to get the sale... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 17:55:09
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im also thinking the pet shop knew less than me.
im using a glass viv, dimmer stat, temps seem ok, what should i do in the meanwhile till i get the stats for the heat mats? leave on or switch off?
not a great picture of my setup but i have analoge gauges on both ends, temp and humidity, and a digital temp gauge on the basking spot. iv got a moss hide on the warm side and a normal hide on the cool side,3 water dishs in there and some extra moss at the front, the shop sold me terra basis as substrate but not to sure about it being ok, and i got polystyrene on the back and side for insulation aswell.
iv also got a 100w sun glo bulb and shade but it seems to dry it out to much so i left it off. only room for 1 aswell so i dont leave to much open.
iv read alot of caresheets recently and they all say differant things.
looks like i need an expert to help. shame there are no experts in petshops nowadays. just spotty little teenagers that talk a good talk.
suggestions all welcome.
neil
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 17:59:15
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 18:09:34
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well i dont use a glass viv...but Cat or someone else can help on this...
as the viv is so big, you do need more hides, but you dont need 3 water bowls..
in my viv, my moss hide is in between the hot and cool end...
to much humidity is not good for royals..
Cat what is terra basis? is it the same as orchid bark?
the care sheet on here is spot on and very very good...came from people who own royals..
if your using a dimmer, i would change the bulb to an infrared... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 18:23:20
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i have a infrared bulb, the only side of glass open is the front.
the humidity on my warm side is 47% at the momnt. only really goes up to about 70/80 when i mist it, but uselly is between 50-60%.
the cool side normally stays around 60-70%.
its spends its time in the cool side hide most aswell.
was useing the water bowls and moss to stop me losing all humidity. i had some cork bark in there aswell but took it out cause it saped the moisture strait up.
im guessing none of the origanal probloms i posted are serious or has no one came across it before? should i help my snake or just sort the viv first?
thanks for the help. will be going to the vet if it doesnt heal atall.
thanks.
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 18:30:26
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after reading the first part of the care sheet linked i think my baby might be getting ready to shed.
i noticed it rubbing itself on the wood a few times and just thought it looked sweet.
i think im going to keep reading.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 18:33:57
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if you follow that care sheet you wont go wrong...
and then you can make any needed changes and come back here with questions;-)
if your snake does shed, i reckon that the white on its back will go...
your humidity does not need to be high...
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2009 : 18:45:04
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ok. thanks very much. do you think the skin around the mouth will heal ok? i think it must be from rubbing on thr wire top. it doesant do it as much now.
what should the hubidity be around? 50%?
do they start rubbing before they shed as mine doesnt look as blue as the snake in the care sheet. looks like it maybe just getting there..
and i dont think a smaller tank would help, it keeps trying to get out the one its in. or could that be why?
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/05/2009 : 19:04:12
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 25/05/2009 : 19:08:51
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Originally posted by bpluv
ok. thanks very much. do you think the skin around the mouth will heal ok? i think it must be from rubbing on thr wire top. it doesant do it as much now.
what should the hubidity be around? 50%?
do they start rubbing before they shed as mine doesnt look as blue as the snake in the care sheet. looks like it maybe just getting there..
and i dont think a smaller tank would help, it keeps trying to get out the one its in. or could that be why?
thanks
that's what i thought, i had a tiny roayl in a 3ft glass viv, seemed active and "trying to get out" etc, but wasn't feeding too well (in part my fault though) and definately wasnt shedding well, i also had unstatted heatmats.
now he's in a 2ft wooden viv with ceramic (statted) heating, 3 hides, aspen substrate, rock, bark, 1 large water bowl. he's feeding/shedding like a dream now :D |
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