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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14/06/2009 : 00:12:58
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 00:14:44
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i did budget, and iv already bought everything twice from bad advise, so really, no, i didnt budget for wasteing money.
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 00:17:14
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not only that but my mates royal that is 2 weeks younger than mine went strait into a 3 eoot viv with 1 hide and eat 4 small mice and shed already.
so cant really listen to i have to follow the rules at the momnt.
but i will have to do somthing eventully.
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 00:38:01
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Originally posted by bpluv
not only that but my mates royal that is 2 weeks younger than mine went strait into a 3 eoot viv with 1 hide and eat 4 small mice and shed already.
some people get away with it, some people get problems later because of it, some people have probs straight away
as an owner you should try and do your very best by your animals  |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 07:34:39
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yea, im not trying atall... im just trowing money at it. i spent nearly £500 on stuff for this baby royal, but hey.. i should try atleast i know. but i can only go on advise, and how do i know the advise im getting is going to help atall. like you say, they are all differant.
my friends royal eats and sheds with little heat/humidity in a massive viv, with 1 little bulb bearly doing anything, unstatted, and with low humidity. but im being told that all my stuff is wrong? how can i beleive that spending more will help.
and surly my posts on here show that im trying to do my best for my royal.
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Edited by - bpluv on 14/06/2009 07:43:56 |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 10:19:00
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I know it can be very frustrating getting things right but bear with it and it will work out...
If you have ended up with a few bit over why not try selling them to recover some of the costs. Advertise them on here and RFUK and im sure you will sell them. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 10:41:13
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i think that viv can work..
i had Peanut in a 3 foot viv at 8 months..
are you feeding in or out of the viv?
i would feed in the viv...
also before you feed, wash the food in washing up liquid and thoroughly rinse, dont handle its food at all, use tweezers.
When it is warmed up, get a hair dryer, open the viv door and use the hair dryer on hot till the snake gets a smell of dinner, make sure it is hot to touch before trying,
when feeding dont dangle it in front of your royal, let your royal sense it, you will know when he is interested as his tongue will flick, if he shows interest then slowly move it a bit closer and stop, this is harder to explain than to do..jiggle it gently so it creates movement, again hard especially with a rat pup, but this can be done if holding the pup by its back..let the royal come to the food, not food to the royal...
and feed him late at night...if he does not take it, cover the viv and go out... leave it in overnight...
also make sure your using extra long tweezers so he does not get scared by you being there..
finally if this does not work, can you get hold of live food?
either a rat pup or a multi? cos that is what i would do...for at least two to three consecutive feeds...
good luck...oh and try not to be despondant when offering food cos your snake can sense it..
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 10:43:36
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Wash the rat in washing up liquid?
I'm not saying this is wrong Anne, but goes against everything I would have thought makes sense. I try to keep as much scent as possible on the rat to make it appealing, plus you'll add a chemical smell/flavour? |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 10:46:18
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quote:
Originally posted by bpluv
yea, im not trying atall... im just trowing money at it. i spent nearly £500 on stuff for this baby royal
a damn good reason to research your new pet BEFORE buying it!
and it's easy enough to check out prices online soyou know if you're being ripped off! |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:08:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho
Wash the rat in washing up liquid?
I'm not saying this is wrong Anne, but goes against everything I would have thought makes sense. I try to keep as much scent as possible on the rat to make it appealing, plus you'll add a chemical smell/flavour?
yep i was told by someone who knows more than me on the dark side..lol....weak solution..... rinsed THOROUGHLY
gets rid of any urine smells , rats scent comes back when it is being heated up with hair dryer
dont have to do it,but sometimes the wee smell can take away the scent of the animal, is what i was told. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:10:00
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thanks for the replys.
im feeding in the viv with 25cm tweezers.
would washing it work or defeat the object?
its not the cost of the box, its the heatmat and stat the are the main cost.
i have 2 heatmats but they are stuck to the bottom of the glass tank i got. they are brandnew. would 1 be ok if i use my dimmer stat? or will i need a matstat aswell?
and i didnt want to get flamed but i did try a live mouse off my friend but in the cage the mouse and snake stayed at each end, and out the viv in a box the snake just tried getting out and the mouse just moved about round it.
i tried warming up with the hair dryer but not with the glass open. when its open the snake wants to come out.
iv now covered up the viv with the day glo bulb doing its heat and light, im gonna put the red one on at night. they are both in there and easily plugged from the stat.
but could i unstick my mats and use it with my dimmer in a rub? if i can il do that today.
thanks for the helpful replys |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:17:20
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how big was the mouse?
at his age you want nothing bigger than a rat pup, he needs confidence right now
where are you based? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:19:30
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sorry. west london. near heathrow
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:24:45
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Originally posted by bpluv
sorry. west london. near heathrow
your not that far from me,
i am trying to think who else is in that area.
if i had stats and stuff i would Have a go for you, but i have non spare for a rub right now.
do you have transport? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:26:15
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yes i drive, where are you?
so would i not be able to use my mats and stats then no? |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:29:33
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:35:00
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i have an idea,
have you got a rub?
iF so then this might be ok,
see what the others say.
but you could take everthing out of the viv, except the heat source and put him in a rub inside the viv, with your digital thermometer inside the hde in the warm end of the rub, make it similar to how it is in the one posted in the d-i-y section on here ( sorry cant putah link in), and leave him alone totally for seven days only changing water if it is soiled
then get a live rat pup, take out all hides and leave him in the rub with the rat pup.
check him again after an hour or so. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 11:58:40
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Originally posted by dazb
As above...but I would try frozen first...not live...
the link WS was on about...
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1451
Thanks Daz was on my phone so could not link to it.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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