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bpluv
Yearling
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 Posted - 14/06/2009 : 12:25:38
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i can only get small mice live, i tried a quite small one before.
i can try useing my small rub but how would i get 2 hides in there aswell as a bowl?
would i need to cover the glass in the viv aswell for 7 days.
i can get defrost rat pups but dont know where to get live from.
thanks, im willing to try that. |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 12:59:10
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ok...get your RUB and put a hide each end and a water bowl in the middle.
The hide cos of the size of your royal can be 2 toilet rolls. (believe me they will squeeze in and love it) then put your RUB inside your viv so 1/3-1/2 is over the heat mat.
Here is my baby set up...(has slightly bigger water bowl now)
Big hide removed for feeding...
then cover with a tea towel....
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 13:14:56
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you say put it over the heatmat, should i unstick one of mine on the glass tank and put it under the rub? then put it in the viv with the light and mat connected to the stat?
should i leave the glass open or close it to keep the heat in? |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 13:52:12
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| no if you try to unstick it it could damage the heatmat, meaning it won't function properly, put the RUB over where the heatmat is. |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:28:45
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my heat mats are stuck to the bottom of my glass tank, but im using a wood viv now.
i just got a rub, is 195x300x135. will this be sufficant?
so iv got a choice of on the heatmat in the glass tank or with the bulb in the wood viv. what would be best?
should i leave it completly covered for the whole 7 days? no light cycle?
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:37:18
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| i cant put a tea towel over either if i use a bulb cause itll set the cloth on fire! wont it? |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:37:27
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I dont think the bulb would work if you put the RUB in the viv to heat the RUB. I would either put the RUB in side the glass viv OR gentally remove the mat and put that inside the wooden viv. Just connect the mat to the stat...
Yes cover the RUB for a week...royals live in old rodent burrows so it would bother it. Only removing the cover to change the water.
The RUB size sounds spot on... |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:43:22
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Originally posted by dazb
I dont think the bulb would work if you put the RUB in the viv to heat the RUB. I would either put the RUB in side the glass viv OR gentally remove the mat and put that inside the wooden viv. Just connect the mat to the stat...
Yes cover the RUB for a week...royals live in old rodent burrows so it would bother it. Only removing the cover to change the water.
The RUB size sounds spot on...
could it not work by creating an overall temp in the viv..
I know Pauline had all her reps in a garage at one point, but she kept the garage at a set temp, so could this not work in the viv..and then cover the viv? it would still be dark wouldnt it ?
just an idea is all.. |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:46:03
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ok, il try and put it in the glass tank, itll be covered anyway. will the mat be enough to run off the stat alone as i hear there is a minimum wattage, i dont know about the mats. they are exo terra rain forest medium mats. should i plug both in for the power usage then just put the rub on part of the mat. and would the mat power enough to get trough the glass and into the plastic, and finilly do i cover the whole thing? what about ventilation?
sorry for all the question and thanks for your patiants.
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:49:00
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sounds feasable ws, when i got them from the shop they were all in a back room just heated the room, not seperate tanks.
so what would be the best for my royal, just so im doing the best by it... |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 14:56:03
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
quote:
Originally posted by dazb
I dont think the bulb would work if you put the RUB in the viv to heat the RUB. I would either put the RUB in side the glass viv OR gentally remove the mat and put that inside the wooden viv. Just connect the mat to the stat...
Yes cover the RUB for a week...royals live in old rodent burrows so it would bother it. Only removing the cover to change the water.
The RUB size sounds spot on...
could it not work by creating an overall temp in the viv..
I know Pauline had all her reps in a garage at one point, but she kept the garage at a set temp, so could this not work in the viv..and then cover the viv? it would still be dark wouldnt it ?
just an idea is all..
Im not sure if it would penetrate the RUB.
As for people heating the rep rooms i dont know how they do it.
Wot temp would you set the room at...??
If you set it at say 32*C there wouldnt be a temp gradient in the viv/RUB. If you set it at 25*C (cool end temp)you would still need to have a heat source to heat the warm end.
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:00:33
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quote:
Originally posted by bpluv
ok, il try and put it in the glass tank, itll be covered anyway. will the mat be enough to run off the stat alone as i hear there is a minimum wattage, i dont know about the mats. they are exo terra rain forest medium mats. should i plug both in for the power usage then just put the rub on part of the mat. and would the mat power enough to get trough the glass and into the plastic, and finilly do i cover the whole thing? what about ventilation?
sorry for all the question and thanks for your patiants.
neil
If it is a Habistat then it has minimum load of 40w. If it is a microclimate it has no minimum load and will be fine.
I would say if it a habistat i would place the probe on the mat and plug the light in aswell. doing it this way would be a case of trial and error just to get it right.
also...I have heard of people running just mats off habistats dimmers with no probs. give it a try. |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:03:39
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i got a 150w infrared bulb and 100w sunglo bulb in the viv already, surly a 150 w would penetrate. but i see what you saying about the graidiant.
but when they were in the rep room they never had hides in there rubs either. so maybe it wasnt being kept right then either. |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:09:16
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its a habistat that i have. il leve the light going in the viv and put the rub in the glass tank with the mat.
so we are getting there slowly..
i havnt tried feeding for 3-4 days so should i try it again before i swap it over into the rub?
remembering i had it 4 weeks on tuesday with no feed as yet!!
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:16:58
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:18:33
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quote:
Originally posted by bpluv
i got a 150w infrared bulb and 100w sunglo bulb in the viv already, surly a 150 w would penetrate. but i see what you saying about the graidiant.
but when they were in the rep room they never had hides in there rubs either. so maybe it wasnt being kept right then either.
are you using the sunglow? does it give off much light?
you dont need it, you only need the infra red...
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:19:39
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Originally posted by Blackecho
I would try before moving, and then once moved leave for 5 days before trying.
i agree with BE..but not till it has been five days since your last attempt.... |
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bpluv
Yearling
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:22:35
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im useing it when i cover the tank to give light in the day, but when its upto temperature it just glows dimly. i normally use the infrared one all the time.
should i leave 5days or 7 days covered before trying again. |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:26:26
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quote:
Originally posted by bpluv
but when they were in the rep room they never had hides in there rubs either. so maybe it wasnt being kept right then either.
There is different opinions on if they require hides in RUBs. Some people say the RUB is the hide. I personally provide them with additional hides inside the RUB... |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
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Posted - 14/06/2009 : 15:37:43
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Daz, does he need that other light in there?
probably wont make any difference, but they live in burrows in the wild with no light dont they? |
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