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dazb
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  15:49:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you dont need any light in a viv...they are for our benefit only. The amount of day light coming in through the window is plently. Like you say Anne they live in burrows and are nocturnal aso dont require light.



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bpluv
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  17:14:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but if there is no light, i,e if its covered would they not think its just a really long night?

and again. 5 or 7 days, and what should i do about ventilation whilst its covered, surely it wont let much in or out?

thanks
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  17:18:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bpluv

but if there is no light, i,e if its covered would they not think its just a really long night?

and again. 5 or 7 days, and what should i do about ventilation whilst its covered, surely it wont let much in or out?

thanks



when your royal is feeding and everything then he will get natural light in his viv, but for now you want to create this environment to give him security..

as for air, does the rub you have got not have any air holes in it? if you make some in this you will be ok..




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bpluv
Yearling

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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  17:39:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
iv put about 8-10 6mm holes alond the bottom at 1 end and the top at the other end and about 10 in the lid.
im just waiting for the heatmat to warm up now. iv been trying to feed it for 20mins and it just keeps moving the fuzzie with its tail. not interested atall.
lets see how it likes the little box then.
i put 2 toilet roll tubes and a small water bowl. with newspaper substrate.
id get a picture but my phone broke..

thanks again
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  18:24:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did you really just try a feed?

it has not been five days since the last one has it?

and where did you feed him? in his viv or the rub?



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Blackecho
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  18:26:12  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Small marge tubs or old cereal boxes cut down can make good hides too.



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bpluv
Yearling

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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  18:44:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just wiggled a defrosted warm fuzzies yes, then left it in the viv for 10 mins, the snake kept moving about as normal as if it wasnt even there.
its now covered up in the rub, in the glass tank, half on the heatmat half off. il check the water on wednesday and top up or change it. should i change the paper if its wet?
then do i try friday or sunday? do i just put the defrost in and cover it back up?

iv put 2 tubes in as advised earlier, do i change them or leave them?
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  18:50:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bpluv

i just wiggled a defrosted warm fuzzies yes, then left it in the viv for 10 mins, the snake kept moving about as normal as if it wasnt even there.
its now covered up in the rub, in the glass tank, half on the heatmat half off. il check the water on wednesday and top up or change it. should i change the paper if its wet?
then do i try friday or sunday? do i just put the defrost in and cover it back up?

iv put 2 tubes in as advised earlier, do i change them or leave them?




do you think you can wait seven days ?




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bpluv
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  18:53:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol, if i have to i have to. i will get abit worried though thinking it may have died if i cant see it for 7 days, exept for checking the water.
so its 32 hot end right?

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  18:56:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bpluv

lol, if i have to i have to. i will get abit worried though thinking it may have died if i cant see it for 7 days, exept for checking the water.
so its 32 hot end right?

thanks




well if you dont leave him a lone and wont, you are not going to get that royal feeding,

if you cant go five days then seven wont have a cat in hells chance..



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bpluv
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  19:31:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well looks like il have to doesnt it. but i did ask earlier should i try before i swap it over and i dot told yes. so i did. maybe i made a mistake.

so how should i do it next sunday? just put in the defrost and recover. or totally open it up and tease with the food.

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dazb
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  19:40:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes 32*c is fine for the warm end...

Next week i would defrost and get it nice warm and offer it in the RUB.



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bpluv
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Posted - 14/06/2009 :  19:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks, il do that.

thanks again for all the advise. it is apprieciated.

neil
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bpluv
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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  16:31:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
right, i havnt touched the snake, i thought id ask here first. should i check the water tonight or should i wait till sunday. i havnt heard a peak from it. i hope its ok. thanks again
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  16:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bpluv

right, i havnt touched the snake, i thought id ask here first. should i check the water tonight or should i wait till sunday. i havnt heard a peak from it. i hope its ok. thanks again



just check it and see if it needs changing, dont touch the snake or do anything else



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bpluv
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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  17:04:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok. so if the paper is wet should i just leave it? what if it trys to get out when i uncover it? i want to do this properly. thanks ws
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  17:11:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bpluv

ok. so if the paper is wet should i just leave it? what if it trys to get out when i uncover it? i want to do this properly. thanks ws



if the paper is wet yes change it, he probably will stay hidden my little girl does when i go in to her rub...



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown





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bpluv
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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  17:46:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok. il see how i go. hopefully it stays in a toilet tube so i dont have to desturb it. it hasnt seen light since sunday so should i try and do it in the dark. or as it starts getting dark tonight. or should i do it in the light so it stays hiden? il get there in the end. thanks for talking me through it.
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bpluv
Yearling

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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  20:29:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I FEEL HORRIBLE NOW!! i just went to the rub to check the water. as i lifted the cover it was sat with its head half way up the side, as soon as i opened the top, one side only, it shot out. i stopped it with my finger and it hasnt struggled and fought like that since iv had it, i thought it was going to strike as i was trying the get it to keep its head in.
i just topped up the water and closed it, then its banging its nose on the lid.
im really not happy with this. is it the only way to do it??


Edited by - bpluv on 17/06/2009 20:29:46
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 17/06/2009 :  21:27:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if you feel this is to much for you, then maybe you should consider rehoming him, harsh as it sounds, your stressing and your snake is stressing..


you have to be calm and patient and hope this turns around..



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
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