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wolfspirit
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Posted - 28/07/2009 :  21:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so sorry Spor, i feel awful for you now...

fingers crossed the other one keeps going in the right direction,

i wonder if they get so far and then kind of start shutting down, there metabolism is slow isnt it, so i wonder if it might not notice till it is to late..

i feel for you, and hope you know you gave her a chance....it is hard and i would be devastated like you are if i lost one of mine..



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Weirzo
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Posted - 28/07/2009 :  21:24:57  Show Profile  Click to see Weirzo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have a similar problem with my kingsnake and im very confused

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 28/07/2009 :  21:35:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Weirzo

I have a similar problem with my kingsnake and im very confused





what is your kingsnake doing?



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Blackecho
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Posted - 29/07/2009 :  15:13:47  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear that Spor, some just aren't meant to be. Good news on the other one though.



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lee2308
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Posted - 29/07/2009 :  16:40:05  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
sorry to hear that spor,you can only try.

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 29/07/2009 :  17:04:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Sorry to hear that Spor, some just aren't meant to be. Good news on the other one though.



But dont you agree that if intervention comes sooner that they might not die, by that i mean yes sort out the set up but in the meantime get them assist feeding or to someone who knows how to assist feed properly..

Maybe then less of them would be dying..



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Blackecho
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Posted - 29/07/2009 :  17:29:35  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose it depends what was wrong with it. There may have been something neurological stopping it from eating. Taken to the extreme, force or assist feeding could actually just prolong suffering.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 29/07/2009 :  17:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats very true BE....

but could they also be dying just because they dont know what food is and dont know how to eat..

you know i am anti assist anyway, would rather try and tease them with live first....even though i dont like live..



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mourne
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Posted - 29/07/2009 :  23:59:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well what can one say...so sorry to hear that Spor. At least you know you will have one home again in the near future, you know you did all you could and Tony too. My zoo is doing great it even has expanded...daughter got a labrador/spaniel puppy called Madden (irish for little dog) even though she won`t be little for long.

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spor
Fully Grown Royal

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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  01:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for all your comments of support. got a photo last night of freyja swallowing down another small mouse so fingers crossed. that two un assisted feeds she has taken.
as for nimue, hard to think of what way it could have gone. reading other non feeding posts here with some hatchlings not eating for eight weeks and then pulling back. so i guess i thought i was doing the right thing. set up was good, feeding not so good, monitored weight and hydration was good. how long do you wait before assist of force feed? especially with a snake that is prone to fasting?

lesson learnt for me is not to take snakes that have not established a strong feeding pattern.

mourne hope you enjoy the lab. we have one who is about 7months old now and is just another big child. our zoo has also expanded over the last few months with. Degus and hamsters. and a yellow bellied turtle. will also have 2 fire headed beardies joining us from next week. Think we might need to move to a bigger house soon.


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wolfspirit
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  07:21:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spor


lesson learnt for me is not to take snakes that have not established a strong feeding pattern.





that i think is the key, to get a royal who has been feeding regular for a while, but even that is no guarantee...

but it evens the odds out a bit better..

your house sounds as full as mine..lol..



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spor
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Posted - 15/08/2009 :  01:23:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well another up date all going good so far Freyja still with Tony she is due a feed tomorrow night so I'm going out to see her. she shed last week and it was a clean all in one so very happy about that. all being well if she feeds tomorrow I'll leave her for one more feed and then bring her home. tony has also very kindly offered to replace nimue with one of the other 09's that he still has and that have been feeding well. so i think i will take him up on that offer but offer him some half the price as a way of also saying thankyou for looking after Freyja.

bearded dragons never happened in the end. the guy i was going to get them from had a change of circumstances so he didn't need to re-home them. have been thinking about maybe getting a corn or and adult royal? have a nice you viv stack to fill.LOL


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wolfspirit
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Posted - 15/08/2009 :  08:31:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats good news about Freyja...





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lee2308
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Posted - 15/08/2009 :  19:47:02  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
sounds like things are on the up

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kashie
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Posted - 15/08/2009 :  21:19:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Such a sad story - I know how frustrated you must have been feeling when they wouldnt feed - I'm going down that route with my albino at the moment, he hasnt fed since I brought him home.
Still, at least you have one that seems to be on the mend and hopefully will be home with you soon.
Good luck ;)



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spor
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Posted - 17/08/2009 :  01:22:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers.

went out to see freyja tonight and needless to say needed slight assist with feeding. but once it was in her mouth she took it and consricted and it was gone a few minutes after that. Planning to take her home on thursday night. I'm happy to assist if needs be but hopefully won't have to and that she is just being funny after her shed. She is looking a lot better more body to her. I am also then going to take a male hatchling from the same clutch who hasn't missed a feed from day one. to the point were it just needs thawed to room and in on tongs and its gone. Going to see it fed on thursday night when I pick up freyja and then I'll probably bring him home on saturday evening.


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wolfspirit
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Posted - 17/08/2009 :  08:46:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats good news....

i bet your looking forward to her being home again,

and the new addition...




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karl
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Posted - 17/08/2009 :  11:20:53  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Best of luck in getting her back

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kashie
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Posted - 17/08/2009 :  11:23:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great news - hope all goes well - needless to say keep us updated!



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spor
Fully Grown Royal

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Posted - 20/08/2009 :  22:49:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well she is home and looking great.
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2403


as she had fed on sunday I thought there would be no point trying to weigh her when we got home. but needless to say she had left me a little bundle of joy to clean up so stuck her on scales. she was a bit wriggley but reckon she is around 73or 74grams.

so happy to have her home.

Tony had double checked the other one which i will be bringing home and she is actually another female. Watched her feed tonight and it was great small mouse thawed to room temp in and gone with in the flick of a tongue.

picking her up on saturday. yeah


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