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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  07:34:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


I am looking into the possibility of building a rack as my collection of royals is increasing and i will run out of space soon, so a rack seems to me to be the more practical way to go..

whats the best way to build one and what size rubs will i need for adults and also hatchlings, will it be best to have two stacks one for adults and one for youngsters?

also what is the best way to heat them all..?


thanks;-)



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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  07:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit



I am looking into the possibility of building a rack as my collection of royals is increasing and i will run out of space soon, so a rack seems to me to be the more practical way to go..

whats the best way to build one and what size rubs will i need for adults and also hatchlings, will it be best to have two stacks one for adults and one for youngsters?

also what is the best way to heat them all..?


thanks;-)


thats just the question i was gonna ask lol
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dazb
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  08:11:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would build a frame out of conti boeard to fit 50l RUBs and 9l RUBS. how many is up to you...

To heat it i would use a heat mats. Heard the heat cable isnt as reliable and can break. Use 1 stat per horizontal level (cos heat rises) and the temp can increase as you go up the rack.




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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  08:21:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can u not used ceramic bulbs at all in a stack? only thats the heating type i prefer... if there are reflectors on the bulb and a stat in each viv... would that help? sorry.
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dazb
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  08:31:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all the racks i have seen use heat mats with RUBs...



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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  08:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oooh i am with you now... i thought you meant everything in the stack... including the adults sorry lol.... so if i had a "stack" of vivs for the adult royals when they are bigger (including the corn and the boa in this stack) could i use ceramic... or would you still suggest heatmats?

Edited by - MissCat on 24/06/2009 08:34:58
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  11:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

I would build a frame out of conti boeard to fit 50l RUBs and 9l RUBS. how many is up to you...

To heat it i would use a heat mats. Heard the heat cable isnt as reliable and can break. Use 1 stat per horizontal level (cos heat rises) and the temp can increase as you go up the rack.






i have been on the look out for cupboards on freecycle..but even making it with contiboard would not be hard would it? I magine how many royals you could have...

how can you regulate the temps if your just using one stat?

would it be tricky to get the temps correct in each rub?




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now and make a brand new ending."
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  11:17:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Morning Cat



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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  11:20:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

quote:
Originally posted by dazb

I would build a frame out of conti boeard to fit 50l RUBs and 9l RUBS. how many is up to you...

To heat it i would use a heat mats. Heard the heat cable isnt as reliable and can break. Use 1 stat per horizontal level (cos heat rises) and the temp can increase as you go up the rack.






i have been on the look out for cupboards on freecycle..but even making it with contiboard would not be hard would it? I magine how many royals you could have...

how can you regulate the temps if your just using one stat?

would it be tricky to get the temps correct in each rub?




morning anne :D
he said one stat per horizontal level :p so if there are 3 levels... 3 stats :p kitties are going inna mo *does snoopy dance* tfft LOL


EDIT: hang on... u were talking about the rubs again werent you... good grief, i might just go back to bed haha i am not awake yet :s

Edited by - MissCat on 24/06/2009 11:23:08
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  11:23:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
aww...are you sad or glad ?



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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  11:25:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GLAD!!!!! they arent all going yet, just 3.. but it does mean there will be less random poop/wee everywhere but the litter tray, and less scratches on the legs LOL
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  11:30:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MissCat

GLAD!!!!! they arent all going yet, just 3.. but it does mean there will be less random poop/wee everywhere but the litter tray, and less scratches on the legs LOL




awww..lol...well they are only babies...


am off to try Kazz with a defrost soon, if i fail i will be murdering a pregnant mouse..




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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  12:06:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:( never mind it's all for the greater good :D
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  12:31:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MissCat

:( never mind it's all for the greater good :D




she just took a small defrost weaner...no messing straight in on it...



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Edited by - wolfspirit on 24/06/2009 12:31:24
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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  12:47:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
huzzah :D :D congratulations :D :D so no murdering baby mousies?
i am STILL waiting for them to come and get their ruddy kitties. over an hour late so far, i have to go out soon too >.< i called them an hour ago to see where they were and they said about 10 mins away.....
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  13:26:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MissCat

huzzah :D :D congratulations :D :D so no murdering baby mousies?
i am STILL waiting for them to come and get their ruddy kitties. over an hour late so far, i have to go out soon too >.< i called them an hour ago to see where they were and they said about 10 mins away.....



where are they coming from?

not sure yet on murdering babies..lol..wait and see if she takes the next defrost..lol..



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MissCat
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  18:09:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they got stuck in traffic cos of glastonbury festival :s
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reptiles-ink
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  18:13:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can use ceramics in rubs but it is harder to do as you would need to make the rack deeper to fit the ceramic behind and position it right.
1 way is to have ducting running behind with a ceramic underneath and a fan inside the ducting to push the warm air through to all the levels.

Plenty of Retics and Burms
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  18:44:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave what is the best way to heat a rack?

and if it is heatmats how hard is it to get the temps right in each rub?



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reptiles-ink
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  20:30:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I personally prefer heat cable ran on a pulse stat.I have had heat cables on constantly for over 3 years now with no problems.
Heat mats are popular and are just as easy to get the temp right as in a viv, just put the probe directly on the mat.

Plenty of Retics and Burms
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 24/06/2009 :  20:32:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by reptiles-ink

I personally prefer heat cable ran on a pulse stat.I have had heat cables on constantly for over 3 years now with no problems.
Heat mats are popular and are just as easy to get the temp right as in a viv, just put the probe directly on the mat.




ok thank you;-), i take it your temp probes are inside the rubs?

where do you place the heat cable in relation to the rubs?



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