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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24/06/2009 : 21:21:52
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the thermometer probes are in the rubs but the stat probe is on the mat/cable.
Depending on the rack I put the cable under the rub or if the rack is enclosed then on the back wall behind the rubs.
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/06/2009 : 22:31:16
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heat mats seem to be the most popular way. and the build from what i have seen looks quite simple. when dropping snakes of at breeders tonight I was having a look at his racking system. which at the moment holds 15 snakes from 06 to 09. as BE said its one heat mat per horizontal level. And as Dave said the pulse stat probe is taped to mats. He then has dual digital hygrometers and thermometers in each rub. What i did notice was that he has the heat mats on a shelf and the a few more thin strips of wood running across them with the rubs sitting on top of that.
done up a quick wee diagram to explain what i meant.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/06/2009 : 11:02:14
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you drew that on the comp?..lol..its cool..thank you;-)
i think i will deffo need a hatchling rack at some point, i was looking last night at getting rid of furniture i dont use to make more space..lol.. |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 00:42:53
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well its just a very basic idea of the structure. there are thing like cheap shelving unit in agros and the like that would probably work well......
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/catalogId/1500001501/partNumber/8754035.htm
this kind of idea. only thing is its pine. a deep book shelf would work as well for hatchlings. |
0.4.0 Royal Python
1.0.0 Pastel Royal
0.1.0 Spider Royal
1.1.0 Carolina Corn Snake
1.0.0 Normal Stripe Corn
1.0.0 Yellow Bellied Turtle
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 08:49:25
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
I personally prefer heat cable ran on a pulse stat.I have had heat cables on constantly for over 3 years now with no problems.
Heat mats are popular and are just as easy to get the temp right as in a viv, just put the probe directly on the mat.
dave- does your inside RUBS get up to temp when the probe is directly on the mats...I have tried this, but inside the RUB doesnt get warm enough before the stat cuts out...? |
 
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/06/2009 : 10:28:22
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what are the best rubs for adults in a rack?,
i want to do lidless ones...
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
298 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 13:13:28
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Originally posted by dazb
dave- does your inside RUBS get up to temp when the probe is directly on the mats...I have tried this, but inside the RUB doesnt get warm enough before the stat cuts out...?
Just adjust the thermostat until the required temp is reached inside the rub ignoring what the stat is showing.
If you put the probe inside a rub the response isnt quick enough and harder to maintain a constant setting.
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
what are the best rubs for adults in a rack?,
i want to do lidless ones...
Ikea do some trays big enough if you are not using lids.
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 14:31:33
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
quote:
Originally posted by dazb
dave- does your inside RUBS get up to temp when the probe is directly on the mats...I have tried this, but inside the RUB doesnt get warm enough before the stat cuts out...?
Just adjust the thermostat until the required temp is reached inside the rub ignoring what the stat is showing.
If you put the probe inside a rub the response isnt quick enough and harder to maintain a constant setting.
Thats wot i did but the mat didnt get warm enough with the stat up full. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/06/2009 : 14:37:03
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Originally posted by dazb
quote:
Originally posted by reptiles-ink
quote:
Originally posted by dazb
dave- does your inside RUBS get up to temp when the probe is directly on the mats...I have tried this, but inside the RUB doesnt get warm enough before the stat cuts out...?
Just adjust the thermostat until the required temp is reached inside the rub ignoring what the stat is showing.
If you put the probe inside a rub the response isnt quick enough and harder to maintain a constant setting.
Thats wot i did but the mat didnt get warm enough with the stat up full.
maybe it is the mat?
sorry Daz, not picking, but have you tried a different mat?
i know i am way off target, but just a thought..lol.. |
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/06/2009 : 15:18:35
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It could be that the mat is under powered for the rack.
Also is the rack open on all sides or just the front?
I prefer to use heat cable with them as they emmit heat well and if temps aren't reached then run it under the tubs a 2nd or 3rd time.
Cable also warms up quicker so the temps are more stable.
Im going to be building some racks in the next few weeks with cable built inside the grp shelf making the shelf itself the heater.
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 15:36:28
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i dont think its the mat anne, and the RUB dave is just sat on the mat on top of a stack.
The stat only goes up to 34*C but it needs to reach higher than that to achieve the 32*C inside the RUB. |
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
298 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 17:22:25
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Originally posted by dazb
i dont think its the mat anne, and the RUB dave is just sat on the mat on top of a stack.
The stat only goes up to 34*C but it needs to reach higher than that to achieve the 32*C inside the RUB.
What power is the mat?
Have you got anything under the mat to insulate it?
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 17:44:43
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/06/2009 : 19:28:56
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does anyone know how long a 33L rub is?
off to get some melamine tomorrow and i dont know if it comes in certain lengths or not, i hope so cos i aint got a saw..
would B&Q cut it for me does anyone know? |
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cumbrian eejit
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/06/2009 : 19:35:48
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If you get the sizes that you need anne, then go to b&q and select the needed piece on contiboard, they give you the first 5 cuts free, that or have noticed they do some reasonably priced shelving units in there, the kind that just push together, NO TOOLS NEEDED!!! so an extra bonus for you LOL |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/06/2009 : 19:42:45
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Originally posted by cumbrian eejit
If you get the sizes that you need anne, then go to b&q and select the needed piece on contiboard, they give you the first 5 cuts free, that or have noticed they do some reasonably priced shelving units in there, the kind that just push together, NO TOOLS NEEDED!!! so an extra bonus for you LOL
thanks Scott, i will have a look tomorrow, but i need to know the length and depth of the rubs..
i want to do them lidless.. |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/06/2009 : 19:49:58
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/06/2009 : 20:46:42
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Originally posted by dazb
if its a RUB it is 710x440x165 (LxWxH) all in mm's Anne...
ok, i can convert that i think, thank you young man  |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2009 : 11:55:30
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
I personally prefer heat cable ran on a pulse stat.I have had heat cables on constantly for over 3 years now with no problems.
Heat mats are popular and are just as easy to get the temp right as in a viv, just put the probe directly on the mat.
Dave how and where would you fit the heat cable?
I am probably going to have to get one made cos i think it might be to techy for me..lol..
but i am fast running out of space..
trying to find someone down here to build one in case i am incapable of doing so..lol..which is likely.. |
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/07/2009 : 12:01:38
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the cable is normaly put under the rubs by routing the shelf out and putting the cable into the slot made by the router and for best results line the slot with foil tape.
I have also on my hatchling racks ran the cable on the back of the unit and taped it in place with good results.
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