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antw23uk
Yearling

United Kingdom
275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  18:05:41  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks to Hodhie and hs sticky in the DIY section i made my first royal python viv today
Its for my 07 Obran who currently lives happily in a 50ltr RUB so im hoping he will appreciate the little bit of extra space and also being on a ceramic.

I have edging tape to put on and obviously glass runners/ glass and fit the ceramic but thought i would share a pic now and then hopefully by next w/end i will have a completed viv pic to show you

P.s it was done in this dark conti board so it matches the bedside draws (Ikea ones)


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russm
Yearling

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  18:32:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks good. Will be smart when it is finished.

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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  18:33:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks good...well done.



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antw23uk
Yearling

United Kingdom
275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  18:37:02  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks .... and i meant Hodgie

Ant.
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antw23uk
Yearling

United Kingdom
275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  18:43:45  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Any help on the wattage of ceramic for this viv will be much appreciated. I cant seem to email Hodgie!

Ant.
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  18:47:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How big is it?

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Remmy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
642 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  19:06:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking good cant wait to see it finished. Reckon a 100w will be ok

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antw23uk
Yearling

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275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  19:08:45  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's 24x15x15

Ant.
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  19:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldnt use bulb heating in a viv smaller than 3'. I dont think you will get much of a thermal gradient.

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antw23uk
Yearling

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275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  20:19:04  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Really? Oh ok will do a bit more research

The whole idea of them going into wooden vivs is because the room they are in gets too cold in the winter to be 'safe' for a heat mat! Hence putting them on ceramics!

Advise very much appreciated

Ant.
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

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Posted - 23/08/2009 :  20:30:15  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Try a low wattage infrared heat bulb, you may be ok.



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antw23uk
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275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  20:38:54  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Try a low wattage infrared heat bulb, you may be ok.



No can do, they are being kept in the bedroom and i wouldnt be able to sleep with a red 'glow' next to the bed, lol

Grr this is so frustrating ... i hadnt thought about it being too small for a ceramic!

Ant.
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matty18714
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Posted - 23/08/2009 :  20:53:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can get small 60watt ceramics, but I still dont reckon you will get a good enough gradient.

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antw23uk
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275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  21:01:28  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ok thanks Matt, will have a re think. It's easy enough with the beardie as she brumates through the winter but i am worried about the temps using just a heat mat when the room temps get so cold. I use a storage heater at certain times of the day when im asleep etc but come 2-3am in the mornings its way too cold for just the surface heat a heat mat creates!

Ant.
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Remmy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
642 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  21:27:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ant, i made a 23*21*18 viv and had my 07 royal in it for 5 weeks. Its hard to get everything in the right place as the ceramic covers a large area and as matty said you cant get a thermal gradient.

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antw23uk
Yearling

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275 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  21:30:17  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok thanks Remmy, much appreciated.

So a mat taped down inside the viv then on a stat? or are there any other options apart from making another viv, lol

Ant.
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  22:11:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for following my guide, I use reptile radiators, they are a little pricey but get perfect heat gradient.

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spor
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1226 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  23:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks good , i like the darker wood.
my first viv build was close to size. I used a 75watt infra red on a dimming stat and managed to get a good 10degree gradient. although I did have more air vents. one each side at top..


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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
5741 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2009 :  00:02:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ant you will be fine with a low wattage infrared, if the lights bother you that much you could always put a towel across the front and remove it in the mornings...

i have two in my bedroom and they dont bother me at all..heaven knows what my neighbours think though with a red glow coming from my bedroom..lol.



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
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antw23uk
Yearling

United Kingdom
275 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2009 :  08:39:14  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spor

Looks good , i like the darker wood.
my first viv build was close to size. I used a 75watt infra red on a dimming stat and managed to get a good 10degree gradient. although I did have more air vents. one each side at top..



Thanks Hodgie i thought i recognised it as i have one in the roof of my beardie viv. Its never used to be honest because she brumates every year !

Do you just have it hooked up to a stat? what temps do you get from it please?

Ant.

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spor
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1226 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2009 :  01:38:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah used dimming stat with probe set under the hot spot and set until 89/90F was stable. the other end balanced around 80/81F. Introducing more greener and creating more shade in the cool side will help a bit as well. I took temp readings inside the hides.


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