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spor
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Posted - 07/10/2009 :  21:20:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not what you wanted to hear i'm sure, but a relief to know? hopefully she will be able to lead a happy normal live regardless as you have said it doesn't seem to have bothered her.


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Gingerpony
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Posted - 07/10/2009 :  21:40:07  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
*hugs* babe

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 07/10/2009 :  23:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

Hi guys sorry I havent replyed sooner but only got the results today...

it turns out that 1 of her heart chambers (snakes have 3..) is enlarged/dilated. It is untreatable as not enough is known about snakes and may never cause her a problem through out her life, and upto now doesnt seem to have as she is eating well and has already laid eggs once.

The cause of it is impossible to say, but possible causes are injury, heart disease and also the chance it could be hereditary. As I have only had her a short time and dont know her full history it is impossible to say.



Thanks for the update Darren, did the vet give any idea of how long it has been like that?

the previous owner must have noticed it if it has been like that for some time...


So with the chance it can be carried over what will you do now, are you going to have to shelve your breeding plans for her?

if i had the space i would offer her a permanent non breeding home and you could get another, but i dont...



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dazb
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  08:29:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TBH Anne its only noticable if your looking for it so I dont know how long it has been there myself and the previous owner may not have noticed it.

I spoke to the vet about breeding as I had told him that that was my plan for her, and he said he could see no reason as to not breed her.

There is no proof that it is a hereditary problem and could have been caused by a injury or developed over her life due to unknown circumstances. I have come to some likely conclusions myself as I do know some of her history and her body tells a story.

Thanks for all replys guy




Edited by - dazb on 08/10/2009 08:30:57
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Gingerpony
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  10:01:00  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
my main concern regarding breeding is for Sheila... the extra strain put on the heart while she's gravid and then laying....

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xautomaticflowersx
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  13:10:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least if the problem was in a mammal they could prescribe some furosemide to help with any buildup of fluid, but I doubt you could really administer a diuretic to a reptile. Particularly a snake, since they have such a slow metabolism.
At least you know what you're up against and you know to keep an eye on her. Will you have to give her smaller prey items (maybe multiples) to minimise the physical strain on that area?


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dazb
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  17:29:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

my main concern regarding breeding is for Sheila... the extra strain put on the heart while she's gravid and then laying....



She has already laid successfully once about 16-ish eggs so hopefully it wouldnt be a big problem for her, but I will make sure she is in tip top condition to help reduce the risk...


quote:
Originally posted by xautomaticflowersx

At least if the problem was in a mammal they could prescribe some
furosemide to help with any buildup of fluid, but I doubt you could really administer a diuretic to a reptile. Particularly a snake, since they have such a slow metabolism.
At least you know what you're up against and you know to keep an eye on her. Will you have to give her smaller prey items (maybe multiples) to minimise the physical strain on that area?




From what I can understand there is no fluid build up at the moment. Just a oversized chamber.
She is almost fully grown I would say weighing in at 2450g's and is eating rats that weigh about 180g's max at the moment and doesnt seem to be having trouble in getting them down, also she loves her food so smaller multiple prey items wouldnt be a problem I wouldnt think.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  22:14:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

my main concern regarding breeding is for Sheila... the extra strain put on the heart while she's gravid and then laying....



That would be one of my worries to...


does the vet think it could go away Daz?


she is so lovely just like her dad..i hope she will be ok...



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