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markmifsud
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04/05/2011 : 21:51:06
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I think one of the problems Wendy will find now is that she has a pet, and not an object that can be returned under a consumer rights issue. My grandson had a feeding problem with his snake, bought from a very well known and busy exotics. We took the snake back there after 3 weeks of no feeding and they said, "oh, ok, leave the snake here with us, and we will give you a replacement" doh, you should have seen my grandsons face drop at the thought of doing this. We ended up visiting Daves Reptiles in Dagenham (where I bought my pastals from) he gave us some tips on what to try and 3 days later, he was eating his first mouse :)
Good luck with your snake Wendy, I really hope its a good outcome for you both |
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2011 : 10:31:07
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When I bought Tig he was already on large fuzzie mice/very small adults : / He soon grew out of them too.
I agree that they shouldn't have sold her to you when she clearly needs some kind of help, if even just for her kink. To me, although it's hard to tell, the kink doesn't look like it's part of her spine, it looks more on the side. Like where the muscle is either side of the spine. No idea what it could be though, my knowledge ends there.
However, it worries me that this shop doesn't know what they're doing, and if this little baby went back there how would she be cared for? Would they still assist-feed her? And on the same food? Would they get the lump sorted or just leave it? I do understand that there has been a dodgy sale here, but as far as the snake is concerned is the best thing to do really to take her back? Or get her seen by a vet ASAP and keep her loving home?
Alice is a very cute little baby by the way, all curled up there : ) |
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WendyBall
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2011 : 19:52:08
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Thank you to everyone for all your advice, I took Alice to see a reptile specialist, as I felt I could not return her - the shop obviously was not bothered before, so I did not feel that they would be now. Alice, who is definitely a female! Has either broken the bone and it has fused back together, or has a birth de-formality. She did however open her bowels (as to say) whilst he was looking!
I was advised to try and get her to feed with the appropriately sized feed, but was told that this could take her some getting used to so was given a good few tips! I also, on advice bathed Alice - which she did not seem to like at all, but we have had a try, probably a little too much in one day for the poor little thing! I will keep you all up-dated on Alice's progress! Thank you again Wendy
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Posted - 06/05/2011 : 20:08:53
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Hi, that's great that you are keeping her. I hoped you would but on the other hand it's a decision only you could make.
It's good that she showed she could take a dump normally, even if she did disgrace herself at the specialist's. Shows she's in good working order. It's also good that the specialist can give you advice re correct feeding. Why did he advise a bath for her - did she have stuck shed?
Do hope that things go well for her now, and good luck with her feeding and rearing. All the best. |
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stumpy
Yearling
United Kingdom
255 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2011 : 20:11:12
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| So glad you have kept her, she has gone to a lovely home and will be cared for. I hope everything turns out ok. Keep us informed |
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WendyBall
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2011 : 20:11:53
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I think the bath was just incase there was any more to come out lol - it wasnt lots, but enough for me to be happy that it was not a blockage!
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2011 : 21:29:41
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| I'm so glad your keeping her and already showing you care by taking her to a specialist. Many kinky snakes lead a perfectly normal life but just look a bit erm special. I look forward to hearing how this little one gets on and how she comes on feeding. Are you winding back on the assist feeding, try the 1001 different feeding techniques. The most successful feeding technique I've seen while on here is the feed overnight in the enclosure they live in, it plays perfectly to the nature of the royal python, they are shy, timid little beasts, easily freaked out. Its sounds mad but the stress of assist feeding is most likely the reason for been stressed and not eating, if she has a little bit of weight it won't do much harm to have her not feed for a few weeks but you just have to be very vigilant because she is only very very small and very young. |
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 10:25:41
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Aww, glad your keeping her : )
It might take a while for her to feed normaly, but as people have said there are endless ways to try and get it down there. It might just be that she needs the rat/mouse to be left near her over night while no one is around.
Glad she's working normaly! Maybe she was just trying to prove it to her vet X )
Good luck with your new girly : ) |
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WendyBall
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 14:13:24
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| Tried Alice with a mouse fluff yesterday, I was surprised that she struck at it, but she then left it .... I left it in over night, just incase she wanted to eat in the dark, but fluff was still there this morning :( I am thinking though, after reading lots of advice on here, that I maybe best getting rat pups, as I don't want her to get used to the mice (is she ever feeds) and then have a problem changing her over to rats. I have also, whilst awaiting a moss hide, made her a hide for humidity out of a plastic sandwich box, with some slightly damp paper towelling - my hide and moss is on its way though. Alice is good in herself though, wondering around the tank, even caught her at the water bowl! |
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Posted - 08/05/2011 : 14:21:38
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That is brilliant that she struck at the mouse, after the assisting. Shows she knows what to do. Sounds like she'll get there, even if she misses a meal or two. Don't worry too much about her not eating straight away; she's had a big upheaval in her life and she's still settling in with you.
(Ha - I know it's impossible, not worrying! I have a new corn hatchling who's not eating yet - and oh boy will I be thankful when I see that mouse go down into that empty little belly ... )
Really sounds like Alice is doing really well - congrats! |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 16:07:27
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| Striking is a very good sign, probably still settling in and not prepared to allow hersefl to eat just yet but the instinct to feed is there, makes you wonder why they started assist feeding in the first place. Give her another 5-7 days of quiet and settling in and try again. You can try mice and rats, rats are better for when they are adults and its better to start them on rats so they dont need to switch but all the signs are good with a strike. |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/05/2011 : 21:17:41
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| If she strikes then she knows how to feed, try again in another week, |
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WendyBall
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/05/2011 : 22:16:09
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Looking forward to attempting another feed tomorrow night - I am going to wait until 'after dark' too! I will let you all know how we get on! Fingers crossed!
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prozacbear
Yearling
United Kingdom
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WendyBall
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2011 : 08:54:45
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 Alice did not even strike on this attempt, tried a rat pup and even a pinky in desperation, was so hoping that she would feed. Going to try the 'darkness' trick that I have read about on here. Covering her RUB, only checking on her water and try again in 5 days or so.
Just want her to eat! I also miss holding her, hoping that the lack of contact is not going to be a negative thing too |
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stumpy
Yearling
United Kingdom
255 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2011 : 09:18:12
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| Bad luck Wendy, I really feel for you, have you tried warming the mouse with a hairdryer, thats want i have to do for Zuri. All the best for next week, keep us informed please, everybodys fingers croosed for Alice |
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Vikx993
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2011 : 09:41:55
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| My royal is a fussy toad when it comes to him eating. So what I do is warm the rat pup up in water, running it under the hot tap. Dry it off blast it with my hair dryer focusing on the head, then leave it in his rub over night. If he doesn't go for it. First thing in the morning I take it out give it one more blast with the hair dryer and he normally takes it then. |
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WendyBall
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 12:47:53
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| Hair dryer! Did not think of that one, sounds like a plan! |
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prozacbear
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2011 : 14:40:22
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| You'll find a feeding techqiue she likes, a snakes personality really start to show when feeding, I wouldn't believe they could be such individuals. My diablo is straight out at the smell of rat and his hunting techqieue is to run at the smell until he bumps into, stagger in shock for a moment, then strike and constrict, then normally take five mins finding the head. Whereas cleo won't move a muscle until the rats right in place then she'll hit it like a train right on the nose 9 times out of 10 and she's eaten it before diablo has finished constricting. Diablo likes hairdryer rats and cleo likes hot water prepared rats, scar will only eat limp dead things he won't strike and anubis will strike 3 times before he decides to constrict. They're all so varied and preparation in the rat is important. |
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