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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:18:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi guys i just conqoured my huge fear of snakes and bought myself a lovely male royal python

hes one years old and seems happy and healthy

im new to keeping snakes so any advice would be great :)

callie

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:29:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello and welcome to the madhouse, lol.

What sort of advice are you looking for, the caresheet on here is a great place to start on how to keep Royals, the stickies on this forum (the subject stuck to the top of the list) are a good read for specific info and anything else you want to know, just ask.

Oh and its law that you have to post lots of pictures.


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blackskull
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1278 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:30:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi and welcome

1.1 normal royal, sully, silver
0.1 pinstripe royal, penny
1.1 pastel royal, lars, clover
0.1 lesser royal, serenity
0.1 black pastel royal, betty
0.1 mojave royal, mavis
0.1 normal het clown
1.0 pastel het clown
1.0 nuclear, ned
1.0 super phantom
1.0 childrens python, myles
0.1 hog island boa
0.1 sonoran x boa, grace
0.0.1 mack snow leopard gecko, munchkin
4.1 cats, stan, dave, marble, binx, daisy
4.1 rabbits, mol, ted, bill, spud, alice
0.1 crazy cat/bunny lady of bridgwater, lucy
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Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:32:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome - royals are one of the most gorgeous snakes around imo, and plenty of info and help on this forum as Bob says. Congrats on your new acquisition.


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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no idea mainley feeding and tempreature contoll :)

also wondering how long i can keep him in this rub setup hes about 1 and a half foot at a guess and the rub is 2 and a half foot by one foot i think

i have no idea hot to post pics so help on that also please lol :)

callie x

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Originally posted by Lotabob

Hello and welcome to the madhouse, lol.

What sort of advice are you looking for, the caresheet on here is a great place to start on how to keep Royals, the stickies on this forum (the subject stuck to the top of the list) are a good read for specific info and anything else you want to know, just ask.

Oh and its law that you have to post lots of pictures.


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Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a sticky on the photos section - and this video by Kelfezond -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L8U7iZteSA

Hope this helps.


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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:45:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
great thanks on photobucket now :D

just held him for the first time and took some pics
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake

There's a sticky on the photos section - and this video by Kelfezond -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L8U7iZteSA

Hope this helps.


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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:51:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Check on the pictures section for instructions on how to post pictures using photobucket.

Sounds a bit little to be a year old, a hatchling would be not far off a foot and a half, my 1 year old is about 4 feet so I'm thinking that he is a bit younger than you think though they can sometimes be slow to start feeding and that prevents them growing much. Saying all that they are deceptive and never appear as long as they are all stretched out.

Temperature control for a RUB setup is a simple heat mat thermostat Habistat, Microclimate and Komodo are the most commonly available, and you'll also need a couple of digital thermometers. If you don't have a thermostat you need to get one ASAP there is a risk of burning the snake (and the house down) using any heat source that is not controlled yet most shops sell snakes without them which is annoying.

Temps are 32oC at the heat mat side and then the rest is left at room temperature as there isn't a right lot you can do to heat the air with a heat mat. You dont want the cool side dropping too cold though because its also the air temp of the whole RUB and even with a warm belly from a heat mat a Royal can still get cold if its too low. What temperatures are you achieving at the moment?


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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i only have a thermometer atm temp is t 26 is that ok ? have heat mat on one side and huge water bowl on the other and aspen stuff and hes got a hide , the guy i bought him form supplied it all and a large rat which he is currently eating :D so happy hes eating as iv heard there noutorously bad eaters
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Originally posted by Lotabob

Check on the pictures section for instructions on how to post pictures using photobucket.

Sounds a bit little to be a year old, a hatchling would be not far off a foot and a half, my 1 year old is about 4 feet so I'm thinking that he is a bit younger than you think though they can sometimes be slow to start feeding and that prevents them growing much. Saying all that they are deceptive and never appear as long as they are all stretched out.

Temperature control for a RUB setup is a simple heat mat thermostat Habistat, Microclimate and Komodo are the most commonly available, and you'll also need a couple of digital thermometers. If you don't have a thermostat you need to get one ASAP there is a risk of burning the snake (and the house down) using any heat source that is not controlled yet most shops sell snakes without them which is annoying.

Temps are 32oC at the heat mat side and then the rest is left at room temperature as there isn't a right lot you can do to heat the air with a heat mat. You dont want the cool side dropping too cold though because its also the air temp of the whole RUB and even with a warm belly from a heat mat a Royal can still get cold if its too low. What temperatures are you achieving at the moment?


cb10 royal female

cb08 royal male
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:57:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
26 in the hot end? Is it a dial thermometer?


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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:58:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
he was born beginning of october last year apparently , i layed him out and hes bigger than i though about 2 foot or more but i dont have a measuring tape atm tomorrow im goign to the shop to get a thermostate and new hide so ill get a tape measure to , been told to record lenght and weight feeds and shedding so i can make sure hes healthy

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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:59:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes were the heat mat is its a human thermomater for when your ill ts all had :/ the guy didnt tell me about heat controll ect i only saw here on the care sheet and it worried me
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Originally posted by Lotabob

26 in the hot end? Is it a dial thermometer?


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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  19:59:18  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hot end temp should be 32c and the heat mat on a thermostat

Is the heat mat on the inside of the rub/viv?

Not bad feeders but they like to fast over the winter months something they do
Get the setup right and they will be good feeders till they decide to fast for a while

P.s I sell digital thermometers £5 and they have a probe on a wire so yocacao place it where you like ;)


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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:03:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the help :)

its under the rub outside how the man told me to put it , moved the thermometor and its a bit warmer than i though so i hope its ok , im off to repltile shop in morning to get a nice new hide and heat equiptment , i want it all prefect for him

hes still eating atm , very facinating to watch , i had to brain the rat though :/ haha typical girl i was almost sick
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Originally posted by D3lboys-Morphs

Hot end temp should be 32c and the heat mat on a thermostat

Is the heat mat on the inside of the rub/viv?

Not bad feeders but they like to fast over the winter months something they do
Get the setup right and they will be good feeders till they decide to fast for a while

P.s I sell digital thermometers £5 and they have a probe on a wire so you can please it where you like ;)


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cb08 royal male
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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:05:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
on your website now :) , do just need one thermomater thingy and were do i place it in the tank x
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Originally posted by D3lboys-Morphs

Hot end temp should be 32c and the heat mat on a thermostat

Is the heat mat on the inside of the rub/viv?

Not bad feeders but they like to fast over the winter months something they do
Get the setup right and they will be good feeders till they decide to fast for a while

P.s I sell digital thermometers £5 and they have a probe on a wire so yocacao place it where you like ;)


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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not having a go, this isn't your fault the shop sold you cronk (cant swear so it will do) but unfortunately you need to do an overhaul of your setup. At the same time you need to have a good read up on Royal Pythons, they do take a slightly specialised approach due to their nature mainly.

A thermomenter that I think will be a aquarium thermometer is totally useless, they are designed for reading water temperature while submerged in water. Digital thermometers with probes are the best thing for measuring temperature.

Without a thermostat the heat mat is running constantly at full power, I did a test on a small 7 watt heat mat and it got too hot for a Royal Python within an hour, within a few hours it was just under 40oC. If I was you I would move the hide to the cold side, its going to be too hot in the hot side and its going to want to hide.

Length is near impossible to accurately measure, go by weight, buy yourself a good accurate set of scales and weigh the sanke after a poo when they aren't full of food.

(avoid the shop you bought this from, its the only way they will learn if people stop buying from them).



Edited by - Lotabob on 29/10/2011 20:10:45
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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:11:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its ok i appreciate the advice , i just want to be a good snake owner and make sure hes well looked after :)

im off to the reptile shop , also ordering a nice 4ft viv for him as i dont like the rub
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Originally posted by Lotabob

I'm not having a go, this isn't your fault the shop sold you cronk (cant swear so it will do) but unfortunately you need to do an overhaul of your setup. At the same time you need to have a good read up on Royal Pythons, they do take a slightly specialised approach due to their nature mainly.

A thermomenter that I think will be a aquarium thermometer is totally useless, they are designed for reading water temperature while submerged in water. Digital thermometers with probes are the best thing for measuring temperature.

Without a thermostat the heat mat is running constantly at full power, I did a test on a small 7 watt heat mat and it got too hot for a Royal Python within an hour, within a few hours it was just under 40oC. If I was you I would move the hide to the cold side, its going to be too hot in the hot side and its going to want to hide.

Length is near impossible to accurately measure, go by weight, buy yourself a good accurate set of scales and weigh the sanke after a poo when they aren't full of food.

(avoid the shop you bought this from, its the only way they will learn if people stop buying from them).


cb10 royal female

cb08 royal male
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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:13:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heres a pic :)

cb10 royal female

cb08 royal male
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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heres his rub any advice welcome :) its setup by the private seller not me

cb10 royal female

cb08 royal male
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:15:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh she is a good size, Beautiful too.

the 4 foot viv might be a bit big, Royals hate open space, I honestly think my snake Duke would be happy in a match box if he'd fit.


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missycupcake
Yearling

United Kingdom
212 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2011 :  20:16:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks hes lovely i fell for him when i saw him and he wound up my arm and had his head by my face i was petrified but gettign used to him now :)

ahh good poinbt maybe a 2ft one would suit his size better ?
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Originally posted by Lotabob

Oh she is a good size, Beautiful too.

the 4 foot viv might be a bit big, Royals hate open space, I honestly think my snake Duke would be happy in a match box if he'd fit.


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