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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
 Posted - 06/03/2012 : 11:24:02
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Here ya go ya ratty lot lmao
Here you can post ideas for your team mates to see and make suggestions. Also decide among yourselves who is going to cover specific points.
The last poster covers the rebuttals, picking fault in the mice posts on the main debate thread.
The mice are not allowed to spy in here and likewise any rat seen poking around the mice den will no doubt scoff the rat poison ..so don't!! lol |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 11:28:57
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| I call dibs on the last poster :) |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 12:13:11
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| Any particular reason for picking last kelf? Lol |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 12:20:37
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| I have a skill for destroying other peoples arguments :D |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 12:33:16
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| Awesome! So you can win for us? :) |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 15:44:55
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| I hope so haha |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 16:19:35
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| I thought we'd have had more people so far! |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 03:43:22
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Okay, what's the plan?
Rats - they're not as stinky as mice. Anything that is stinky has got to be super bad for anybody.
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Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 09:40:24
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| Erm not got much of a plan yet... Apart from win |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 11:09:57
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| Okay well since we've just got two people at the moment I think you should both start researching an issue each. The two main ones I think will win us the debate are nutritional value (I've always been told rats are more nutritious for snakes, is this true?) and the availability, maybe we could find a few rodent feed breeders and see what kind of stock they have mice to rats. We all have first hand experience of the difficulty of moving a snake from mice to rats so I imagine they will bring that up at some point, I'll do some research and see if it's a freak coincidence or if there is any weight to that argument. :) |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 11:18:33
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| Ill take the nutritional value, if thats ok? |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 11:46:17
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| Fine by me :) |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 11:52:29
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| Best get researching then :) |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 14:05:37
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Size is the main reason you go rats. It's a guaranteed win. Look at the biggest mouse and then look at a 3kg royal...
Natural prey is another thing.
Whoa... does anybody have a 3kg or thereabouts royal here? A photo of a big mama with a mouse would be very compelling case. |
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
Edited by - anatess on 07/03/2012 14:06:56 |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 14:06:31
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I think we've got this  |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 15:12:20
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I need you guys to let me know who is posting the last two rebuttals..I know Kelf is doing one..
Here is the debate schedule:
09/03/2012 Opening Statement (Mousers..Janie)
11/03/2012 Opening Statement (The Rat Bags..Kelf)
13/03 Opening Argument (Janie)
15/03 Opening Argument (Austin)
17/03 2nd Argument (Janie)
19/03 2nd Argument (Ana)
21/03 1sr Rebuttal (Janie)
23/03 1sr Rebuttal ?
25/03 Final Rebuttal and Closing Statement (Janie)
27/3 Final Rebuttal and Closing Statement ? |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 15:53:51
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Scoring works like this:
There is a maximum of 10pts available on the following:
Analysis: How well does the debater understand the issues at hand? Is he/she able to separate the argument from the rhetoric? Does he/she recognize and focus on the key arguments in the debate?
Organization: Does the debater proceed in a coherent, fluent manner? Does he/she introduce and conclude his/her case well? Are his/her arguments easy to follow?
Evidence and Logic: Does the debater provide sufficient justification of his/her case, either by means of factual evidence or logical reasoning? Is the reasoning sound?
Debate Skills: How effective is the debater's presentation and overall approach to the debate? Is it suitable? Is his/her choice of language good? If appropriate, are wit and humor used well? Does he/she have presence and flair? Is the general approach to the debate appropriate and is it done well? (e.g. humorous, serious, and/or concerned)
Style: How well does the debater deliver his/her speech? Does it appear to be spontaneous or is it merely being copied?
Refutation: How effectively and how thoroughly does the debater refute his/her opponent's case and defend his/her own? This should occur BOTH in the official rebuttal and in the constructive speeches. You can use quotes but you must show them in a separate colour and add the source. |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 17:18:46
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hey guys, you can post your opening statement on Friday :)
All you need to do today is post your colour codes like I did and your roster.
Good Luck :) |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1248 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 17:58:58
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| What do you mean by colour codes? |
1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 18:15:53
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I posted this
Quotes
My Speech
Statements
It just shows if you quoting from a website, or in your own words..like I am now :) and factual statements I didn't change at all.
Just makes it all clearer. |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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smiffy89
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 23:43:17
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hi team
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1.0 amel-snickers
0.1 snow motley-vanilla
0.1 ksb-shaba
1.0 ?rat snake-splinter
0.1 cali king-katana
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