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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/06/2012 :  00:19:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snecklifter

Personally, unless you were going to be mass breeding and piling 'em high, i can't see the need or purpose of using RUBs. I mean, a snake stuck in a RUB is generally seriously devoid of tactile stimulation unless being handled and to me it smacks of non-commitment on the part of the owner.

It is my opinion that its much better to buy a decent vivarium and furnish it properly. The snake will have room to grow and its own 'domain' and will, frankly, look a whole lot better than a plastic box..



Not necessarily true. The hides you provide are a million times more important than the type of enclosure they are in. Their domain is the hide, the space is just open space. Its actually quite common knowledge that Royals in RUBs actually do better than ones in vivariums, specially the more fussy ones.

Vivariums are for the benefit of the owner and nothing more, a snake wants its needs met (warmth, food/water, safety) everything else is for the benefit of the owner.

I personally dont use RUBs for adults but have for hatchlings that require smaller spaces to feel secure and thrive, its only when they are bigger I consider them ready for a vivarium.

I actually have a hatchling house snake in a plastic clip lock lunch box, because a RUB is too big for it right now, but I have all manner of tubs, RUBs and a spare vivarium available and he will live wherever he is comfortable, so its not non-committed, its over committed, ready to meet the needs of the animal before my own selfish wants to display them.

This is a 18 Litre RUB I used for a hatchling Boa, as you can see its kitted out just as well as a vivarium and my Boa thrived in there, she is now in a 6 foot vivarium and I never see her, she is always hidden away.






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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2012 :  16:06:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snecklifter

it smacks of non-commitment on the part of the owner.


Hardly.....

Anyway, I have given it another week to make fully sure i'm ready.

My Mrs is on board now which makes things easier :)

So fingers crossed this weekend if i find the right one!

Watch this space.

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  12:52:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's here! Got a nice cb10/11 not sure as was brought back to the shop. Resisted the cute cb12s but sensible head kicked in. Pics to follow

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  21:44:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this is him - decided on an older "second hand" snake as he is feeding well.



And this is my a.versicolor



And, just update my flame crested gecko's house



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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  21:49:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by badwool

quote:
Originally posted by Snecklifter

it smacks of non-commitment on the part of the owner.


Hardly.....

Anyway, I have given it another week to make fully sure i'm ready.

My Mrs is on board now which makes things easier :)

So fingers crossed this weekend if i find the right one!

Watch this space.

The question you asked,wasn't really a rub vs vivs debate,more a what to buy to get you setup,for a young snake.

quote:
He's here! Got a nice cb10/11 not sure as was brought back to the shop. Resisted the cute cb12s but sensible head kicked in. Pics to follow
Congratz :) cb12 would have still been great,Btw what is it? a normal?

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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  21:50:57  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well done, good choice. Don't freak out if he/she doesn't eat for you straight away, they need time to settle in

Cool gecko too, don't do spiders though Lol

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  21:53:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok nvm ignore the above :P as you posted before me :P He looks good,There's afew bits of let over shred on him.Check his tail to see if theres any left over there to.


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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  22:14:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fezza

Well done, good choice. Don't freak out if he/she doesn't eat for you straight away, they need time to settle in

Cool gecko too, don't do spiders though Lol


Thanks, he's a beut, really chuffed with him!! aww how can you NOT like avicularia, so cute and cuddly

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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2012 :  22:15:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by boomslang

Ok nvm ignore the above :P as you posted before me :P He looks good,There's afew bits of let over shred on him.Check his tail to see if theres any left over there to.




Hi, yes I noticed this also, his tail and head are completely clear of any shred.

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  01:05:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by badwool

quote:
Originally posted by boomslang

Ok nvm ignore the above :P as you posted before me :P He looks good,There's afew bits of let over shred on him.Check his tail to see if theres any left over there to.




Hi, yes I noticed this also, his tail and head are completely clear of any shred.

Where did you end up getting him from?

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  01:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A shop in Stockport called spw exotics.

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  01:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by badwool

A shop in Stockport called spw exotics.

Nice,remember to keep us updated on how he's getting on etc.

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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  09:43:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will do. He's been quite nosy at the moment, whenever I am in my bedroom he is popping his head out and coming out to watch me.

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  13:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the difficult bit, wanting to get your hands on them and having to leave them alone to settle in.


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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  14:14:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How long would you give him? Being as he is older and more used to handling would you still give him the same as a baby?

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/07/2012 :  18:56:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by badwool

How long would you give him? Being as he is older and more used to handling would you still give him the same as a baby?

its new surroundings to remember,Give it a full week before trying to feed and handle etc.

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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2012 :  19:48:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok thanks

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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2012 :  10:27:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not snake related update but gutted today - came to my avic after a moult and it appears he has lost 2 legs - i know they will grow back but still upset about it.

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badwool
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658 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:24:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quick question - once it has been a week - should i try feed THEN handle?

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  14:52:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by badwool

quick question - once it has been a week - should i try feed THEN handle?

Yeah,see how the feeding goes first,Then handle 48 hours after.If he feeds on his first week with you ofc.

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