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anatess
Sub Adult

USA
669 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2012 :  13:37:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Austin, don't forget to mention all the definitions we need to establish (see my post above).


Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2012 :  14:08:04  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah I was joking haha

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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2012 :  14:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know lol woulda been cool though...

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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anatess
Sub Adult

USA
669 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  03:09:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey guys...

I think we didn't present a constructive speech yet. Janie went ahead and did their constructive for Team Mouse...

So, hey, I can do the rebuttal for Janie's first constructive speech, if you like.

But that would mean I get to offer the first constructive speech. So, I can do that, but I don't know how this is going to go now because we got the order of arguments switched up.

Or... maybe I'm following a different rule of debate? (I've never really looked at how it is done in the UK)


Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  07:19:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anatess, I didn't jump the gun..I posted before the deadline cos I won't be here later.

Here is the schedule:

09/03/2012 Opening Statement (Mousers..Janie) POSTED
16/03/2012 Opening Statement 11pm (The Rat Bags..Kelf)
19/03 Opening Argument 11pm (Janie)
21/03 Opening Argument 11pm (Austin)
23/03 2nd Argument 11pm (Janie)
25/03 2nd Argument 11pm (Ana)
27/03 1st Rebuttal 11pm (Janie)
29/03 1st Rebuttal ?11pm
31/03 Final Rebuttal and Closing Statement 11pm (Janie)
02/04 Final Rebuttal and Closing Statement 11pm ?
11pm on any given deadline is just that..the deadline and here




Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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anatess
Sub Adult

USA
669 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  13:13:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanieW

Anatess, I didn't jump the gun..I posted before the deadline cos I won't be here later.

Here is the schedule:

09/03/2012 Opening Statement (Mousers..Janie) POSTED
16/03/2012 Opening Statement 11pm (The Rat Bags..Kelf)
19/03 Opening Argument 11pm (Janie)
21/03 Opening Argument 11pm (Austin)
23/03 2nd Argument 11pm (Janie)
25/03 2nd Argument 11pm (Ana)
27/03 1st Rebuttal 11pm (Janie)
29/03 1st Rebuttal ?11pm
31/03 Final Rebuttal and Closing Statement 11pm (Janie)
02/04 Final Rebuttal and Closing Statement 11pm ?
11pm on any given deadline is just that..the deadline and here





Got it. Thanks Janie!

Okay, so, Janie, Austin, can I take the Opening Argument for Team Rat? I'll post it before Wednesday. I'll also take first rebuttal.

Is that cool?


Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  13:30:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Erm yeah if you want to looking forward to it...

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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anatess
Sub Adult

USA
669 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  14:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Austin, does that mean you get to conclude? We need a strong concluding speaker and... you're our strongest one!


Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  15:08:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Kelf is doing our final rebuttal if he still is?

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  15:58:53  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Sure

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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  16:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok then

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  18:48:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ana have you got the opening argument sorted?

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  19:57:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its getting close..3hrs Austin if you have anything I wouldn't wait later than 10pm



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  21:07:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well i haven`t and truefully cant be bothered to read the mouse arguement, it makes no sense, obviously none of them have a royal that needs a mouse before a rat because it cant be weined off. Its also totally stupid to think you`ll have a fat snake because you give it a rat, what this really comes down to is if your compitant enough to feed a pet correctly (potion wise)
Im with you guys.

Royals owned "lots"

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  21:19:45  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hodgie the point of a debate is to research and explore new possibilities and present evidence to back your theory, Janie put effort and work into researching what she believes so unless you'd like to do the same and make a valid point other than "can't be bothered to read the argument", "it makes no sense" and "it comes down to is if your compitant enough to feed a pet correctly" then you have no need to be here and I think you should show her a little more respect.

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  21:25:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*hugs* Thank you Kelf, I appreciate that xx



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  21:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ADMIN NOTE

this is just a bit of fun can we keep it this way please. This will not suddenly have every snake keeper on the planet jumping up and down screaming at laptop screens.

Its a debate is all


Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes

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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  22:11:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Janie I don't have anything to put, ana said she'll post before Wednesday... does anyone know if shes been on?

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  22:15:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I havn't seen her today, but I was collecting Steve from the heliport. I don't know what to suggest, unless you want to replace for her.
If you do that I'll allow 24hrs..so 11pm tomorrow deadline. Doing that Ana cannot post even if she arrives in time, but you have to make that request before the deadline expires :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa

Edited by - JanieW on 21/03/2012 22:17:32
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2012 :  17:58:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anatess, I hope I never get into a debate with you over anything. Nicely put together post (I dont now what to call it officially), you got me wanting to find out what type of rat I feed my snakes and where can I get these super ones in your post.


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